2016-01-25 Design Forum

2016-01-25 Design Forum

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Agenda

  • eSaude w/ Jan Flowers (Post potential topics of interest on Talk with the tag design-forum)

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Notes

Attendees

  • Jan Flowers

  • Burke

  • Darius

  • Wyclif

  • Terry

Agenda

  • eSaude (Jan)

Notes

  • Jan: the problem with "visits" is that in real life where we are working there is no way to capture visits.

  • multiple entry points

  • no discharge

  • in KenyaEMR we implemented a way to "close all outpatient visits at the end of the day" but Steven says this has been a battle to get people to use it

  • Darius: in Mirebalais there was also no official discharge (for outpatients) so we have an automated task close this (after X hours with no more activity)

  • Burke: just because you aren't clear on when the visit ends doesn't mean there is no meaning in the fact of the visit

  • especially valuable for things like billing, etc

  • Jan: CDC uses the term "visit" in a very specific way for PEPFAR reporting, and we don't want to use "visit" in a way that doesn't match PEPFAR's usage

  • Jan: Valeria has been looking at workflows across HIV treatment

  • e.g. cycles, each one having X tests, and Y followup visits

  • Jan: thought that maybe this is Episode Of Care; Bill says this is more of a Clinical Pathway or Care Plan

  • Burke: Episodes would be tracking what actually happened; Programs might define the expected path; could compare these together

  • Episode = What Actually Happened

  • Jan: do Encounters get attached after the fact, or at the time of the visit, or what?

  • Burke: <pedantic>Encounter would have a foreign key to episode of care</pedentic>

  • Darius: actually, an encounter could belong to >1 episode

  • Burke: we would implement the data model for this first, without presuming a specifically UI workflow

  • e.g. you could enter these real-time, or they could be added retrospectively during a chart review

  • Jan: functionally how can we have this happen without extra work?

  • Darius: in the eSaude application you could do it automatically via encounter types

  • Burke: don't forget that Episodes are *episodic* so you don't just throw them all in a single episode for TB forever.

  • Darius + Burke: this is going to be similar to the approach to visits, you would set up automated business roles that create/continue episodes 95% of the time, and occasionally someone has to "break the glass" manually.

  • Plan = What Should Happen

  • could be against a diagnosis

  • could be against a program

  • could be against a single event (e.g. you have X observation)

  • Subject/Topic

  • Diagnosis

  • Sentinel Event (observation?)

  • Program

  • Burke: "Episodes are a way of grouping encounters around some theme, across multiple visits"

  • Tarry: Episodes of care are defined based on where there is clinical decision-making (e.g. in chemotherapy you reassess after each cycle, so it would make sense for a single chemotherapy cycle to be a single episode)

  • Burke: like we did with Visits, the business rule aspect is going to need to be pluggable:

Transcripts

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